Drafted Players

[z - Gaz]

I mentioned it in the Shoutbox but thought it needed a bigger post.

There are LOTS of drafted players not picked up on Fantrax. If you don't pick them up they are fair game when the next bidding period comes round. There are always people complaining that they own players so don't run the risk of losing them and pick up your players now.

I've sent a few PM's for the ones I spotted that I could find were owned and there were some top end players in there (Riley Pint, Cody Sedlock, Bobby Dalbec and Heath Quinn were the guys I spotted).

Hopefully we have a good enough group that nobody wants to snide a player away that should have been picked up so if anyone else spots someone who is owned then it may be worth giving a GM a heads up. Then there is no excuse if they lose the player in the bonus bidding period.

[Deleted]

thanks for the heads up. done been added.

[z - El Guapo - retired]

See in the Chat that several owners thing unclaimed players should be fair game, but we remind you there are sometimes extenuating reason for not adding a player.

Misspelled player name: Sometimes there are multiple spellings of the player name causes the mistake. Sometimes a typo. Or the owner just can't spell well (El Guapo heh heh)

Player is unavailable on Fantrax at the time, and as time passes, the owner simply forgets to go back and tidy up his roster. That's why this advisory is a good idea.

Poaching other owners players is NEVER a good idea. A simple Search will generally reveal the player is already owned. If you Search and find the guy was drafted, why would you try to pick him up? The best policy is notifying the owner you have spotted his player available.

[Marlins GM (Anthony)]

To simplify, because I think you've misinterpreted my stance a bit...

I'm not saying anyone should be able to knowingly poach other people's players. I know I'd never do that, and I doubt anyone here would ever do that. From what I can tell we've got a solid, honest bunch of owners.

What I am saying is it needs to be the responsibility of the owners to be accountable for THEIR roster. Not the responsibility of other owners to remind them. The FYPD was concluded 2 months ago. Offseason FA, before that. My question for you or for those that oppose. If it's been several months...is that just being forgetful? or something else entirely?

Brad made a good point, and I agree w/ it. It's hard to fill a 30 team dynasty where every owner is as accountable as the majority. Again, agree w/ that. But it also doesn't mean forgetting to pick up your players should become a normality either.

[z - El Guapo - retired]

Sometimes (often?) the owner (or some other league owner) doesn't realize a particular player is owned or the owner has forgotten to add one of his players until someone bids for the guy or drafts him. Only then, when they do a Search, do they see the electronic "paper" trail. No one forgets on purpose.

[z - Gaz]

Which is why if you have been given a heads up and still not picked up a player you cant blame anyone else if you lose that player.

As I said in my opening post nobody (hopefully) is looking to get players through sneaky means but that the onus is on the GM who is drafting. I'm not going to go through everyone's roster to see if they've picked up a player on fantrax. If they're on fantrax and I think they should be owned I'll try to find out if they have been drafted and warn the GM. If they are still not picked up they are fair game and there can be no complaints.

[z - El Guapo - retired]

We have one already. Just found. Carter Kieboom. Drafted by Colorado. Shows on Search and on Rockies' proboards roster. But he remains unowned on Fantrax. There must be tons of guys like this.

Does that mean he is fair game? Absolutely not. He is Rockies property, and there is a paper trail to prove it. The league uses proboards for situations like this, so we can go back and make corrections and settle disputes. Far as we are concerned, Kieboom is Rockies' player, no matter who tries to pick him up, and there is a paper trail to prove it.

[Marlins GM (Anthony)]

And if the Rockies or any other team is notified to pick up said player and he doesn't...And a couple months from now we have a Midseason Draft and he's still un-owned and someone selects C. Kieboom because the Rockies are negligent that's who's fault?

I get both sides, I do. People get busy, people forget, yada yada. But I think you're misplacing blame here, or missing the bigger picture. The point of this is to create a deterrent. To make sure people are responsible for their rosters. The guy who repeatedly ignores/forgets/mis-remembers shouldn't constantly be reminded he's doing so. (I'm not saying anyone is THAT guy, but in general)

For me, this goes back to playing in a FREE league. Some can disagree, that's fine. But because there's nothing on the line it absolutely factors in to how closely people pay attention to their rosters. I'm a baseball nerd, I could care less. But trends like "forgetting" to add players to your roster is a bigger issue. It's a participation issue. And if I'm not mistaken, there are rules clearly stated around such behavior.

[z - El Guapo - retired]

And for us the bottom line is who actually owns the player. That is easily tracked by looking through the back posts. It's a safeguard on which we all rely.

[z - Gaz]

Feel free to go through the draft Guapo and send messages to everyone who needs it. However, you shouldn't be doing that. This league is pretty lenient compared to most but I'm sure it'll say in the rules to "pick up your players" not "wait for someone to do it for you".

Get off your high horse. This thread was meant to make people aware, don't derail it and turn it into some kind of crusade.