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Post by Deleted on Mar 21, 2015 14:09:23 GMT -5
Your point about benching active players and otherwise demonstrating an underhanded approach to acquiring the top pick (or one of the top picks) is a very different matter. If that is what we are trying to solve, then let's solve that and not break out a pneumatic hammer to squash a fly. Lots of legit teams may be in the road when the draft lottery bus roars through town. Some consideration should be given to legit teams that happen to have bad years, had a lot of injuries or are just poorly put together. Reverse Order is the only safe way to ensure everyone's record speaks for itself. If the LMs want to come up with some way to monitor for "tanking", single out violators and punish them, that's another matter. Some wording in the league constitution or charter should cover those cases, not the draft. Tanking is odious. We currently run a league and have run several over the years. Identifying tankers and punitive action against them is always a concern. Write up a simple rule. Pretty sure everyone is watching the standings. Easy to have someone blow whistle when he sees something ain't right with Team A's line-up; he hasn't made any SP available this week, or he has three DL players in his line-up and fine players on the bench, etc. Set a penalty for clear violations, monitor it properly and be done with it. Even a phrase like "We are watching, and violators will forfeit their Round #1 FYP Draft pick" should suffice. Doing all this gymnastics and contortions with the draft is not really necessary. Concur with Guapo. Strategy (such as trading near term for long term assets) versus not setting lineups, moving players off of the DL etc. (inactivity) are what my feelings are against. Punishments can be set for inactivity whether indifferent or purposeful, of an owner. Let's not punish the owner that decides to trade off current assets for future assets if that's his/her strategy to build his/her team. I do get where the concept is coming from if looking through the eyes of a LM, because if you are weighing the work that it will take to make sure that 30 or even 22 teams are playing the "best lineup" possible in order to keep GMs from tanking vs the work it would take to just make a lottery draft, then the lottery draft makes sense because it would create significantly less work to maintain. That being said, I think if we backed the lottery to bottom 5 (or none) and up the attempt to keep an eye on tankers and have sufficient punishment in place I think the workload should be minimal. |
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Post by Deleted on Mar 21, 2015 14:10:32 GMT -5
Hey guys. Just want to take a second to thank Rob for leaving this up to the entire league for a vote. This won't be the case everytime there is a rules change or an update/edit/clarification, but clearly this was a highly contentious issue for many people in this league. Leaving this up to league vote, in this circumstance, is probably the correct decision. I just hope everyone accepts the final outcome and moves on to enjoying what should be a highly competetive first year in this league. Agree, Kudos Rob |
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Post by Deleted on Mar 21, 2015 14:10:35 GMT -5
Agreed, thanks, Rob. Appreciate all the effort you and your guys have put into this league.
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Post by z - El Guapo - retired on Mar 21, 2015 15:27:18 GMT -5
Nice batch of owners you've assembled, Rob. The payoff is the success of the league. Good job, man.
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Post by Deleted on Mar 21, 2015 16:10:52 GMT -5
The Guap is a funny man.....his artistic use of metaphors is very refined, like telling the difference between butter and I cant believe its not butter
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Post by z - El Guapo - retired on Mar 21, 2015 16:12:01 GMT -5
Sounds like the Nighthawk is buttering us up for a trade proposal...
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Post by Deleted on Mar 21, 2015 21:15:19 GMT -5
I can't vote for playoff teams getting draft picks 2-5, the worst teams need any life that could be draftable. I would never let an owner tank as was mentioned above, but some teams end up weak based on their original draft, injuries or decisions by their management. If any team is awarded a top draft pick it should only be the league champion, but even then it would only be making the strong stronger.
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Post by Dodgers GM (Rob) on Mar 22, 2015 14:18:47 GMT -5
I appreciate everyone's feed back regarding this matter. So from the results of the poll we will have the First Year Player Draft be reverse order of the standings. However I will be looking over rosters to see that teams are not tanking on purpose to get a better pick. If this is something that happens that team will lose there first round pick.
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