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Post by Orioles GM (Ben) on Jan 31, 2016 10:30:33 GMT -5
Hey LMs. You may have seen the discussion on the RFA pitcher results thread. Just wanted clarification on how the rule of rounding to the nearest $0.1m fits with the rules around contract splits. Does the need to make sure you don't exceed the contract splits mean that you can't round up or down if it would take you past the minimum or maximum contract amount?
A's made the point that Dodgers' bid for Price was invalid because:
"The 2016 salary offered is listed at $18.7M, however (by the 80/120 rule) the minimum salary that must be offered with the given AAS of $23.4M is $18.72M (meaning that, when rounding to the tenths place and accounting for the fact that the salary cannot drop below that number, the minimum salary is $18.8M). Subsequently, the offered 2017 salary of $28.1M exceeds the maximum value permitted by the 80/120 rule of $28.08M."
Is that right, or are you allowed to exceed the salary splits if you are rounding to the nearest $0.1m?
Sorry- really tiny point, but may be worth clearing up, as it would seem a pretty annoying rule to lose a bid on in the future!
Thanks,
Ben
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Post by Brewers GM (Brad) on Jan 31, 2016 10:42:51 GMT -5
Ben, do you know where "the rule of rounding to the nearest $0.1m" is? I have located the bit on bid increments but not on rounding.
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Post by Orioles GM (Ben) on Jan 31, 2016 11:09:11 GMT -5
No- which may be the answer then! Was sure I'd seen it somewhere and thought some of the RFA hitters bids had been rounded like that, but could be wrong. I
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Post by Angels GM (Scott) on Jan 31, 2016 15:20:58 GMT -5
Rob will make the final decision on this aspect. But my take is that nothing material has been changed nor has the spirit of the rule been violated. AAS is still the same and the 80/120 is intended as a guidline to ensure people don't backload a contract crazily and then abondon the league later. Let's keep in mind that if Rob invalidates the price bid due to a rounding technicality that doesn't impact the AAS, years, or spirit of the rule then we are going to have to redo a lot of other bids. I'm fine either way, but tend to lean towards common sense rulings if nothing "material" would change otherwise. Just my two cents and not a ruling.
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Post by Deleted on Jan 31, 2016 15:30:05 GMT -5
Rob will make the final decision on this aspect. But my take is that nothing material has been changed nor has the spirit of the rule been violated. AAS is still the same and the 80/120 is intended as a guidline to ensure people don't backload a contract crazily and then abondon the league later. Let's keep in mind that if Rob invalidates the price bid due to a rounding technicality that doesn't impact the AAS, years, or spirit of the rule then we are going to have to redo a lot of other bids. I'm fine either way, but tend to lean towards common sense rulings if nothing "material" would change otherwise. Just my two cents and not a ruling. I understand your view. But if you're going to allow rounding like this, why not call it the 79/121 rule? It's very clearly stated in the rules. A rule ceases to be a rule when it isn't enforced |
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Post by Angels GM (Scott) on Jan 31, 2016 15:30:48 GMT -5
Ok. Rob has invalidated the bid and the Blue Jays won Price. So,
Max has to post his match breakdown with the new AAS
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Post by Angels GM (Scott) on Jan 31, 2016 15:33:18 GMT -5
Rob will make the final decision on this aspect. But my take is that nothing material has been changed nor has the spirit of the rule been violated. AAS is still the same and the 80/120 is intended as a guidline to ensure people don't backload a contract crazily and then abondon the league later. Let's keep in mind that if Rob invalidates the price bid due to a rounding technicality that doesn't impact the AAS, years, or spirit of the rule then we are going to have to redo a lot of other bids. I'm fine either way, but tend to lean towards common sense rulings if nothing "material" would change otherwise. Just my two cents and not a ruling. I understand your view. But if you're going to allow rounding like this, why not call it the 79/121 rule? It's very clearly stated in the rules. A rule ceases to be a rule when it isn't enforced It's moot now. Likely we will write a clarification into the rules on 80/120 rounding. Still seems like non material minutia, but whatever. |
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Post by Deleted on Jan 31, 2016 15:33:54 GMT -5
Ok. Rob has invalidated the bid and the Blue Jays won Price. So, Max has to post his match breakdown with the new AAS Funnily enough, that bid is also invalid as posted Minimum salary in one year is $16.64M and maximum is $24.96M. Both extremes are (as in the previous bid) slightly exceeded |
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